The Karlsson thing -- it's a stretch for me. He makes $10M against the cap right now, and I can tell you for certain Pittsburgh is not just giving him away. They're not of a mind of 'we've got to get him off the team'. They're not going to retain half of that for anybody... if you were ever removing Morgan Rielly, maybe I could see the argument to replace him with Karlsson and maybe you can make the money work, but that's two significant trades -- two guys who have no movement clauses. That's very much sitting around in mid-July like 'hey, wouldn't this be kind of cool?', and I'm not sure how much reality is in there.